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Mar24
Assessing Fred's Chances

Conservative radio talk host, author and blogger Hugh Hewitt has lately been hawking his new book, A Mormon in the White House? 10 Things Every American Should Know about Mitt Romney, which lays out the case for Romney being elected president. So it's no surprise that Hewitt's blog at TownHall.com hasn't mentioned the Fred Thompson news much. But he did mention Fred - briefly - on Friday. Hewitt:

I interviewed Michael Barone yesterday on the Republican presidential contest. Barone agrees that the race is wide open between Giuliani, McCain and Romney, and that it is not too late for Fred Thompson to enter.

That's it. That's all. Here's the entire section of the transcript of the Barone interview in which Hewitt and Barone, of U.S. News magazine, discuss Thompson's prospects. It's quite interesting as Barone points out that, if Newt Gingrich doesn't run, fully one third of the GOP primary electorate is still up for grabs.

HH: In your estimate, is it too late for a Fred Thompson to come in, given the organizational and money requirements of running a presidential campaign?

MB: No, I don’t think it’s too late. I mean, if you look at national polls of Republicans, the percentage of those not going for Giuliani, McCain, Romney and Gingrich has lowered from 32% in November down to 23% in March. But that’s still a quarter of the potential electorate sitting out there presently unmoored to any of those candidates. Gingrich, of course, may not run. That would put another 11% up for grabs. That says to me that you know, there are people around there looking, none of these candidates in the view of many sort of base conservatives is perfectly positioned on issues for that bloc of the electorate that you know, was really sort of the dominant bloc in many respects in the Republican races between 1980 and 2000. So there’s room there.

Hewitt's got a book to sell, so naturally he's focusing a lot on Romney these days, but the release of his book couldn't have been worse timed, coming as it did just as Thompson went on Fox News Sunday and said he was thinking about running for President.

Hewitt and Barone's brief discussion of Thompson left a lot on the table un-chewed. What isn't discussed is how "soft" the support may be for any of the so-called "Big Three." After all, McCain's been falling in the polls - his previous level of support wasn't firm. It's 11 months before the first primary ballots are cast, after all. Support is still fluid.

How many current self-professed McCain supporters will ditch him for Fred Thompson if the chance arises? Unknown - but at least some will.

A number of political observers believe the "Big Three" candidate most vulnerable if Fred Thompson enters the race is Mitt Romney - whose support might rapidly shift to Thompson as there is little that Romney offer the electorate that Thompson can't match. Simply put, conservative Republicans voters - who will decide the nomination - have many fewer reasons to worry about Thompson than they do about Romney.

Romney's one clear advantage over Thompson may be the fact that he's been both a business executive and a "chief executive" in government (as a governor), while Thompson has been a senator, attorney, prosecutor and actor but never has served in a conventional executive role leading either a large private-sector organization or as a governor or big-city mayor.

Expect to see Romney's campaign increasingly stress his executive experience, both in and out of government, if Thompson jumps into the race. Such a campaign theme would also sideswipe McCain's similar lack of executive experience, though if Romney succeeds in loosening McCain's support there is no guarantee it will go to Romney. It could flow to Giuliani.

Then again, analysis of recent polls suggests that Giuliani's recent surge in the polls is driven in part by conservatives who, despite his liberal social views and support for gay marriage and abortion rights, are backing Giuliani because they think he's the only candidate in the race who can defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election.

Fred Thompson is clearly electable in November - the latest Rasmussen poll shows Thompson virtually tied with Clinton, leading her 44-43. Would his entry into the race cost Giuliani some of his support amongst conservatives looking for a horse who can best Hillary? It's hard to see how it wouldn't.

My prediction: The first reliable national polls after Thompson announces his candidacy will have Thompson roughly tied with Giuliani, and both of them at least 10 points ahead of McCain and Romney.


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» http://instapundit.com/archives2/003599.php from Instapundit.com (v.2)
ASSESSING FRED THOMPSON'S CHANCES: "My prediction: The first reliable national polls after Thompson announces his candidacy will have Thompson roughly tied with Giuliani, and both of them at least 10 points ahead of McCain and Romney."... [Read More]

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Fred Thompson is a far better actor than politician. If he gets in the race, he'll be far out of this depth. I guess Democrats can overlook that with say, Obama, but I don't think Republicans will.

Thompson's advantage over Giuliani and McCain, and to a lesser extent, Romney, is that unless some new information comes out about Fred's past positions being in conflict with current perception, Thompson won't face the problems of having to stave off sniping from both the left and right that the other hopefuls will.

While I would have no problem supporting Rudy if he wins the nomination (as a former NYC resident, you really had to see how far the city had fallen by 1993 and understand the liberal culture he had to deal with to comprehend the magnitude of what Giuliani accomplished), a check of any conservative-leaning blog or news board shows there's a big contingent out there who treat him with a distaste as strong as any they feel for the Democratic hopefuls. And while Hillary faces a similar problem of attacks from the right and left in her campaign, the difference is the big media oulets will not only give prefunctionary mention of her dislike within the far left of the Democratic Party. The public image will be of a party united, and folks like Cindy Sheehan and the Code Pink gals angry with Mrs. Clinton will be marginalized even more than they have been since the Democrats regained control of Congress.

Splits between the right and the current three GOP frontrunners will be rehashed ad nauseum over the comming months and into the general election, should one of them come away with the nomination. There would no doubt be media efforts to show a similar split if Thompson enters and wins the nominatiion -- he hangs out with movie people, you know -- but the dislike on the right would have to be ginned up from scratch, as opposed to feeding what's already there, as is the case with Giuliani, McCain and Romney.

The fact is, polls right now mean nothing more than name recognitions. Fred Thompson, who once was pro-choice but seems to be getting a pass on that, is unknown to most Americans who don't watch "Law and Order." I admit he's a heck of a spokesman, but what real basis is there for believing he can be a good conservative president? Right now his principal appeal seems to be that he is not McCain, Romney, or Giuliani.

What more do you want, Lowell?

Thompson is solidly conservative, as proven by his voting record and the refreshingly blunt and unequivocal stands on issues he has taken during this recent boomlet. Giuliani and McCain are simply not Conservative, and Romney may be, but how can we trust that the guy who "shifted" to Conservatism only a few years ago won't "shift" back once he's past the Republican primary? Also, though it shouldn't matter, the Mormon issue can not be wished away. It will certainly cost Romney some votes in the general election - votes we may not be able to spare when running against Hillary. Can we really take that chance? I don't think so.

Some of the second-tier candidates are Conservative, sure, but none of them are electable, and we all know it.

So Thompson is the only candidate that is both...

Verifiably Conservative AND Electable.

Also, as you admitted, he's one heck of a spokesman. And that's not a quality to downplay - that's one thing that made Reagan Reagan - the ability to COMMUNICATE Conservative ideas to a public who doesn't get those ideas communicated in any other medium, be it popular entertainment or government schools. Bush has not communicated Conservatism to the people, and as the new Pew Research Center poll shows, the country is tilting leftward as a result. Liberalism sounds good, but doesn't work. Conservatism works, but requires explaining, because much of the reasons Liberal ideas don't work are because of the unintended consequences.

These things must be communicated. Thompson has the ability to be that Communicator, like Reagan was before him.

And for the guy up there that said he was pro-choice before - that's still up in the air. Nobody has been able to produce a quote of Thompson actually saying so. That is going off hearsay from a couple of old articles mentioning Thompson. But the National Right to Life Committee says he has always been Pro-Life, and they have pointed out that they supported him from the start, and his voting record is completely Pro-Life, so they were right to support him.

In short, Thompson is the whole package. Nobody else is.

A solidly Conservative electable candidate with great communication skills?

That's far more appeal than just "not being McCain, Romney and Giuliani.

And you're wondering why we are excited?

Thompson is THE guy for '08. By far.

I used to believe that Thompson was a viable candidate but frankly in the last few weeks I've read a few opinion pieces he's written and heard some radio commentary by him and I'm not impressed. He seems to be going for the folksy sage approach and I don't find it convincing.

I was much more impressed when I thought of him as a politician while watching him act in movies.

Eb,

Don't underestimate that "folksy" approach. Remember, it worked for Ronald Reagan AND his commentaries on radio before he was President.

Also, it's a bit unfair to complain about Thompson's opinion pieces on the radio(and the ones you read were likely transcripts of the radio broadcasts). You may not think they are in-depth "serious" pieces, but they're not really supposed to be - remember, he's filling in for Paul Harvey, and the pieces he does necessarily have to fit the tenor and confines of that particular show.

So the "folksy" approach is not only appropriate on Paul Harvey's Radio show, it's actually a requirement. You don't fill on on somebody's show and turn it into a whole different enterprise just because you're running for President.

So your criticisms there are patently unfair, which I have a feeling you already knew before you posted...

And finally, regarding his radio opinion pieces - I think he's done a fantastic job. They are pithy(as the format requires), effective pieces of political communication, and show a person able to pack a punch with a smile in a short amount of time. They are also admirably bold - going after Ghandi? Poo pooing Global Warming? Sounding tough on Iran in the context of 300? These pieces show another aspect of the great appeal of Fred Thompson - he doesn't talk like other candidates. He's blunt and unflinching in his opinions, whereas the normal candidate(think the big three) would couch their positions in the normal political equivocation dance.

This is effective political communication in the media age, and again, Fred Thompson shows a talent for this better than any other candidate since Reagan, in my opinion.

Looking ahead, with perhaps too much optimism, to Thompson's nomination, here's an idea:

Nixon's maxim, that a candidate must run to the right to get nominated then run to the center to get elected, will not be a problem for Thompson until he is nominated. It would be nice if there were a way for him to "run to the center" without having to compromise his principles. There is: Lieberman for VP.

» The Daily Fred, March 26, 2007 from ElephantBiz
Your Daily Fred roundup of Fred Thompson news and blog coverage for Monday, March 26, begins with Paul Mirengoff at the large and influential Power Line, a Mitt Romney fan who says, "right now Thompson appears more electable than Romney.... [Read More]

"So your criticisms there are patently unfair, which I have a feeling you already knew before you posted..."

David,

Actually I did not know Thompson was filling in for Paul Harvey and I didn't know the pieces I read were radio transcripts. I was simply responding to what I heard and read. So if my criticisms were unfair, I'd give me a little credit and drop the "Patently".

I hope it is clear from what I wrote above that your feeling about what I knew before I posted was wrong, patently or not.

I'm a longtime fan of Paul Harvey and love his folksy wisdom but wouldn't have ever considered him a serious presidential candidate.

If Thompson wants to be president, he is going to have to have a broader appeal than the Republican base. I argue that these commentaries do not have that broad appeal. Right now I am not arguing whether they are right or wrong, just how effective they are or are not.

Eb,

Fair enough. I apologize for my reaction and insinuation. I figured you knew that he was subbing for Harvey and were castigating him for the style of the piece anyway, which would be pretty unfair. But since that wasn't the case, I withdraw what I said about your motives.

As for the rest of it, I think that's fine - but make no mistake - this commentaries are something Fred was into before this running for President stuff came up. He's been filling in for Harvey most of the year. It's a job. Nothing more or less, and I don't think that Thompson is planning to run any possible campaign by only releasing his Paul Harvey radio fill in bits.

He'll run a serious campaign if he jumps in. And yes, "folksy" spots like this will probably be part of it - but it won't be all of it, I assure you.

"I argue that these commentaries do not have that broad appeal."

And I argue that you are incorrect.

They sell well with the very large Paul Harvey audience. And that is not aninsignificant part of the electorate.

It includes a lot of the old Reagan voters in the blue collar segments. Its enough to easily carry the south as a solid bloc, and gain back in the midwest and rockies enough voters to win the Presidency.

Other than the liberal west coast, a few dense uban cities in the northern midwest, and the urban corridor of the NE, those commentaries sell very well.

Demographic is destiny.

» The Fred Thompson Bandwagon from ChuBlogga!
The Fred Thompson Bandwagon Oh, I'm on it, all right. But just who is Fred Thompson, you ask? He's an actor. He was a US Attorney. He was a Senator for Tennessee. And soon, he could be President. There's been a lot of talk lately ab... [Read More]

Don't underestimate that folksy approach. I think a lot of average Americans are tired of "politics as usual". Fred has common sense which seems to be lacking in almost all the other candidates, yet, he's still a politician and is at home in that environment. He is about as honest as you can expect... for a politician. Also, ask yourself if you still have the same opinion about anything as you did even last year, let alone 5 or 10.

As for the pro-choice issue, I'm not against it either. I just don't think it's something the government should be involved in because it's impossible to stop abortions... why make more unenforcable laws?

By the same token of wishing the government would bow out of the issue, I don't think it should have to support it monetarily, either. We have much bigger issues than worrying about stupid women (and men) who don't want to accept the consequences of their actions. When people have to pay for it out of their own pockets the number of them will greatly reduce as a natural consequence because a lot of people will think twice about engaging in something that will result in an unwanted pregnancy. Or they'll do something stupider like self terminate and kill themselves along with the fetus, which means problem solved...hardhearted, I know, but either way...

The whole nation has grown soft, myself included, and we're reaping the consequences of that now.

Freds the best!

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